Episode 113
Do you need social media if you're starting a podcast?
Today I'm answering a question from Allan...
Q: Is it necessary to have a social media page whilst podcasting?
If you're anything like me, you'll try to do anything you can to avoid social media.
But unfortunately, if you're build an audience for your podcast from scratch you're probably going to need it.
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Host: Rachel Corbett
Editing Assistance: Josh Newth
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Transcript
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Rachel:Hello. Welcome to the show.
Today I'm answering a question from Alan, who has asked, is it essential that you have social media accounts when you have a podcast?
And I would say, as a general rule, you do need some social presence if you want to grow your audience.
Unfortunately, unless you have an existing email list or some kind of community, or you're doing live events and you're in front of a lot of people, social media is really the thing we're stuck with if we want to grow our audience. And if you want to get in front of people who don't know you, it can be a really good tool to use.
I would say you do not need to be on every single platform.
And I'm currently doing a bit of an experiment with my podcast, Me and My Tiny Human, on a whole bunch of different social platforms, because the goal of that experiment is to find out which ones I can delete, because I don't want to be having to post everywhere. And you don't need to be posting everywhere.
If you can, and it's easy for you to repurpose content and put it in multiple different places, it's no harm to do that. And the more places you are, the more places you will be found.
But ultimately, if you are time-poor, if you are doing this on top of your job, if you are trying to really slim down the process, then you want to be focusing on the platforms that are getting most bang for buck for you.
And to do that, you really want to test out by sharing content on those platforms and ideally have a link that will track the content to see if people are clicking through and they're actually listening to your episode.
There are a bunch of tools out there that you can use that will allow you to put a little bit of script on your RSS feed so that, if a link gets clicked when you share on your socials, they'll be able to tell if this person is actually pressing play on this episode.
Then you need to look at that data and go, well, I'm sharing a whole heap to LinkedIn or Pinterest or whatever, and nobody's clicking a darn thing.
So is there any point in me sending it out to that?
Now, people might be seeing your content. This is the difficult thing with social media and podcasting. People might be seeing your content and they just might not be clicking on it. But they might then go to their podcast app and find you, or they might come and find you later on and think, “Oh, I've seen that show so many times that I really want to check it out.”
So there is a bit of an air gap in terms of knowledge about understanding what exactly are people doing. Are they coming and seeing me on social media and then thinking, “I don't want to listen”? Or are they just putting it in their to-do list for later?
And I can't really tell because they haven't clicked on anything.
So there is something to be said for that awareness on social media. Just sending your stuff out there so that people become aware of your content, you, and your show.
But ideally, you just want to be focused on the platforms that are having the most impact for you.
That might take a little bit of research in terms of working out where are the people that I am talking to hanging out. Are they Facebook users? Are they Instagram users? Are they on TikTok?
You really need to understand and do some work on your ideal listener to work out where they are most likely to be, and that's where you should focus.
I think one of the things about social media platforms that sometimes trips people up is whether you need to start a brand new account for your show.
Now, in some instances, your personal account is not going to suit your podcast account, and so it will make sense to start up something new.
The thing to know about that is you're starting something from scratch. So you have to build that baby up from zero, which means you've got to put content on it. And the more content, the better.
You don't want to flood the feed, depending on which platform you're using, but on Facebook you can post and get away with fewer posts than you can on TikTok or Twitter (or X, or whatever we're calling it now).
So you will need to have content to create to build that platform up, because it's not going to grow if you don't have any content on there.
But you can also utilise things like hashtags, which can help your content appear in front of people who might not necessarily be following you but are searching for content in your niche.
The decision to start up something independently really depends on what you are doing and what the content is on your personal social.
And if you've built up a following on your personal social, well, it might be a good idea to utilise that.
But if you've also got a bunch of people who are following you there for something that is totally different to your podcast idea, then that might end up irritating them more than if you just started up something new and thought, “Okay, well, I'm just going to have to post content on this and build it up.”
But either way, ideally, if your goal is to grow your audience, and that is what most podcasters want to do, you are going to have to find ways to get multiple pieces of content out of each episode and share those on social media.
If you are doing video, you can cut up different videos of the full episode into little bite-sized pieces.
I think that is a much better use of your time than trying to upload a full edited video to something like YouTube. Getting little pieces that entice people to listen to the full episode on their podcast app is a much more interesting way to engage people than just an audiogram or something that's static.
So video can work really well in that regard. You just really need to think about how many different ways you can point people to this specific episode.
And then you need to keep pointing people to past episodes.
Some of them might date if your content is topical, but ideally you don't just want to say, “Hey, my episode’s out now,” and that's the only bit of promotion you do about that episode. And then you move on to the next one the next week.
If you want to grow your audience, you need to be constantly bringing people into new episodes and old episodes. And you don't know what piece of content is going to pique their interest.
So the more varied content you can have out there, the better.
And ideally, something makes them go, “Oh, now I'm really keen to listen to that.” And they might have seen a hundred pieces of content before they actually press play. This is the punish of promotion for podcasting.
But it's really important to get that stuff out there. And to do that, you do need social media pages.
But you don't necessarily need to create individual social media pages for your podcast if you have existing social media, and it would work on those platforms.
Ultimately, consolidating and making this simpler, rather than trying to have every single platform and every… I mean, it just gives me a headache thinking about it.
Less is more.
You want to do fewer things really well, rather than trying to be on every single platform and trying to deliver the kind of content that the algorithm needs, because the algorithm is hungry and it's exhausting sometimes.
So hopefully that has helped. If you have a question, please submit it via the link in the description of this episode.
If you want any more help with your podcast, please head to podschool.com.au. You can check out my online podcasting course there, and I will see you next week.
Outro VO:That's all for today.